geeking out about web languages

i don't usually geek out on this journal, maybe i ought to make a hardcore geek journal to keep this stuff from appearing on all you people's friendspage. but until then:

language	design	power	documentation	users
Java / JSP	traditional	moderate	go to college	suits and zombies‡
PHP / PEAR	minimal	basic	perfect	geeks and unix-heads
Ruby on Rails	inspired	like a god	incomplete and wrong	idealists and converts†

^‡ my co-workers
^† including myself